Posted by aerisdead on October 16, 2019 at 17:48:15 EST.
I trust we've all seen it by now but let's SOUND OFF on the new Analogue Pocket!
Follow Ups:
I tweeted it earlier but NGPC is actually the worst served of the systems because the screen size is awkward (would be 9x pixel perfect and need borders) and no clicky stick. Still a day one purchase for me for the other systems though. (aerisdead) (17:50:57 10/16/19 EST)
I think it looks very cool. You do make a good point about the screen size and lack of clicky stick in relation to NGPC games, but I'm still excited. My biggest worry on any new handheld system or anything else I get these days is "Oh no, how easy is it to scratch the screen?" which...hmmm... I'm not sure what it says about me. (n/t) (Jeurja) (21:25:59 10/16/19 EST)
Doesn't anyone use real hardware anymore? I feel like the only non cyborg left on a fucked up zombie La Planète Sauvage of choped and screwed game machines. Anyway, I'd never play NGP on anything but an NGP. The stick is required. Period. Always. As for this thing the design is that tired as fuuuuuuck ballless 8-bit vibe, so 2003...so 2003. Anyway, it looks nice but for one I just don't need the headache. The setup process of those things drives me nuts. Also, THERE IS A NEW ONE OF THESE FUCKING THINGS EVERY MONTH so I sort of just sigh when they roll out yet another one. If my house burned down though...I might be first in line. Until then, I'm sure its nice, but I'd rather have a Gameboy or something. I have a feeling that even if I had one one of these I'd say the same thing. Also, I hope it doesn't wear out fast because its made by nobodies and jobbers with no budget to test or fix fatal flaws after release. Its not hard to clone a Gameboy....but man people sure have failed at it a lot so I wouldn't assume this thing is tough. Probably tougher than Sony but not Nintendo. Do they address this? I ask because $200 is a Switch Lite or whatever the fuck its called. It gets a pretty nice piece nowaways. (SignOfTogusa) (01:24:47 10/17/19 EST)
Seems like a wildly incorrect understanding of Analogue’s commitment to quality/what FGPA is, but ok! (n/t) (aerisdead) (21:59:08 10/17/19 EST)
Then why don’t you explain it to me? (n/t) (SignOfZeta) (11:21:26 10/18/19 EST)
ha ha I was all set to explain it to you but then this "explain it to me" comment made me think you could just google it. Well, I'll do it anyway. FPGA supports the recreation of hardware on a modern chip. Essentially it's a chip that can almost completely accurately mimic the processes of existing older hardware by scanning everything in those chips layer by layer (literally, you should look it up, I've seen the scans). This means when you slot in a game gear game it will have the same exact slow down, the same exact sound glitches, and behave exactly as you would expect a game gear to behave, except on modern hardware that won't fail as easily, with a backlight that works, and with the ability to slot into a dock to play on your tv properly up-resed. It's not software emulation of the hardware, it's hardware mimicry down to the absolute metal of it. I don't love the form factor myself, but they're targeting the most popular Nintendo consoles primarily so it makes sense. Anyway there are not things like this every month, this is only the third FPGA-based console out basically ever I believe, and all of them were by this company (analogue), who are not nobodies, and are in fact the pioneers in the field and make really solid consumer hardware - $200 is much cheaper than I thought it'd be even, it's only that cheap because the price of chips has recently declined. most of your kneejerk reaction up there is aimed at things that are not actually relevant in this case! (n/t) (exodus) (15:17:38 10/18/19 EST)
Hmmm, nope. I already knew pretty much all of that. I don’t think I misunderstood anything. I for sure know what an FPGA is, I for sure know Analogue, the French company that put MVS boards in wood boxes and sold them for crazy money, right? If the Left button breaks on every one of these things because it isn’t perfected yet I don’t know that they’ll be able to fix it like Nintendo or Sony would. I don’t think I misunderstand that. Regardless of “commitment” they are a garage company. This being $200 means they got sweatshop capital and aren’t even present for the construction of these things, totally outsourced. I’m not telling you to not have fun with it, I’m just saying that I’m pre-bored of it already due to a constant wave of retro Frankenstein bullshit that frankly just looks like unimaginative pirate junk give some sheen of legitimacy just because at the moment there isn’t anything obviously better to do. (SignOfZeta) (09:42:45 10/19/19 EST)
It's amusing to follow this conversation while there are several active threads on this board (!) to the effect of "I can't tell if my GP32/everdrive/multiflash/doctor V still works, does anybody remember how to use this thing???" How many half-flashed semi-official pieces of hardware do we each own at this point? But my takeaway from the state of trying-to-maintain-your-gaming-collection is... exhaustion. When I visited my collection in Idaho over the summer, all my Playstation-compatible systems appeared to have died, my Turbo Everdrive that was stuck booting to one ROM no longer boots at all, two standalone DVD players no longer worked, along with the DVD drive in my tower PC. And I'm suspicious that some of my VHS-to-DVD burns have gone blank (or I forgot to finalize them in my hurry to transfer before the tapes rotted). On top of all that, the $3,000 / 200 lb Sony XBR TV that served as the centerpiece of my collection since 2003 is still somewhere in California because it was too massive to move. Meanwhile I'm in Virginia playing a Genesis Mini on a Samsung TV with no good solution for simulated scanlines. [shrugging ascii face] (n/t) (substance J) (11:33:35 10/19/19 EST)
The site mentions a dock coming at some point; I'm much more into original hardware, but if the dock ends up having video out, me from several years ago would have been very, very interested. Since then though I've found the NGPC games I'm most interested in, ie the fighting games, have severe screen flash FX that my eyes do not seem inclined to put up with anymore, so this isn't really something modern me can use anyway. More broadly though, if the FGPA stuff eventually gets to people being able to bring out relatively affordable new hardware that can play NEOGEO carts, and PS2 and Dreamcast discs, I will be all for that, assuming SNK, Sony, and Sega don't end up providing official replacement consoles themselves. But I suppose the current supply of old consoles will probably last the market for another few decades or so. Hm maybe not so much NEOGEO MVSs, I dunno. Then again they seem built to last, I'm probably just being paranoid. (n/t) (Paleface) (13:03:27 10/18/19 EST)
A love letter to handheld gaming! (n/t) (substance J) (11:01:31 10/19/19 EST)
