I really quite liked MH3, and I was super excited for 4, but I'm not sure I've ever been more angered by a game's controls. It's so fucking stupid. They've gone out of their way to make sure the controls are the same as previous games, when they should be improving the camera and changing the controls so obvious things like "put the inventory on the touchscreen" happen and make the game MORE FUN TO PLAY. I'm aware that if I just got a new 3DS it would be more playable, but I bet things still happen like you accidentally sharpen your sword still happen all the time. This series is a perfect example of why Japanese games are in a ghetto. They people designing them are stuck in like 2004.

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Posted by aerisdead on August 17, 2015 at 19:44:00 EST in reply to Did you guys ever talk about Monster Hunter 4? I was so into it... for about 65 hours. What a grand experience. I suppose I'll try to go back and play more but I kept discovering more and more techniques and layers to the game which overwhelmed me with possibilities. Not in a bad way, just that the game is as deep as you want it to be which is really hard to design I think. I understand (finally) why people love the series so, but I think my threshold is now about 40 or so hours into a game of this depth before I start requiring a firm conclusion (and New Game + or optional post-game stuff). MH isn't designed with story in mind though this game seems to have light enough narrative to give you reason to open up new areas. from NeoGutsman.

I really quite liked MH3, and I was super excited for 4, but I'm not sure I've ever been more angered by a game's controls. It's so fucking stupid. They've gone out of their way to make sure the controls are the same as previous games, when they should be improving the camera and changing the controls so obvious things like "put the inventory on the touchscreen" happen and make the game MORE FUN TO PLAY. I'm aware that if I just got a new 3DS it would be more playable, but I bet things still happen like you accidentally sharpen your sword still happen all the time. This series is a perfect example of why Japanese games are in a ghetto. They people designing them are stuck in like 2004.

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I won't dispute that the devs are continually beholden to carrying over control schemes from previous MH games. For shits and giggles I charged my old PSP up and launched MH Unite to try it again earlier this year. Wow, I was surprised how much made it over to MH4 in terms of control, and a bit disappointed. I will say that once you figure it out, you can customize the quick shortcuts and functionality of the lower screen in MH4 (and I'm guessing MH3 - never played that one) and have different layouts saved, but it's still noooot quiiiite perfect when you're switching for functionality sets when fighting two completely different boss-level monsters. I don't have the sharpening issue much since I assign that to a touch screen sub-menu but dangit when I accidentally sheathe my weapon at the wrong time, etc. But yeah, figuring out how to customize your lower screen is really confusing and frustrating when you can't resize or stretch parts of the little "app" style buttons in more logical ways. I want four inventory items in a certain way on the lower screen but the game won't let me even though I have made room at the bottom, etc. I do like the button you can add that lets you cycle through big monster lock-ons (then tap the L shoulder to re-focus on that beast) which is useful (but not on the screen or assigned by default wtffkkk unless you do it yourself I think).

(NeoGutsman)

(03:25:41 08/18/15 EST)

Oh wow, I had no idea there was ANY customisation having only played the demo. That's a bit better, but still sounds imperfect. It doesn't matter though because I can't play it unless I get a new 3DS, as either way it's unplayable without that second stick.

(aerisdead)

(10:08:59 08/18/15 EST)

This was a pretty good demo as far as offering an "easy" mode for learning the ropes. The actual game eases players into the game really well, though. It's not perfect but it's apparently light years better than previous MHs. I was really apprehensive about even getting the game (actually, the limited edition MH4 system + game) but I'm really glad I did. Another thing I liked were the Palicos (little warrior cats) whom you can level up and bring with you on missions. There's a whole meta game with the cats I won't get into here but let's just say you can really customize, level them up, and armor and weapon them up. I can't count how many things they've farmed for me during battle (and outside of battle) not to mention save my actual ass during big battles. I really love having little minions like this with me.

(NeoGutsman)

(02:39:24 08/19/15 EST)

Gah, Facebook spoiled me for edits. Anyway, I meant to say that the actual game does an even better job than the demo to explain the game mechanics. There's still a barrier to entry due to the controls and camera, but once you set things up for locking on and pressing things methodically then it gets better. Those years of playing Phantasy Star Online really helped.

(NeoGutsman)